As I near the end of my third decade programming, I keep finding myself coming back to pondering the same kind of questions.
■ Why are some people good at this and some are not?
■ Can the latter be trained to be the former?
■ What is the role of language, development environment, methodology, etc. in
improving productivity?
I’ve always been partial to the “hacker”. The person who can just flat out code. For some people this seems to come easy. I have been lucky enough to work with a few people like this and it has been awesome. As you talk with them about a problem they are already breaking it down and have an idea of how the final system will work. I don’t mean that other aspects of professionalism, experience, etc. aren’t important its just that I believe in the end there is a raw kind of talent that you can’t teach. My wife can sing, I can’t, and not for lack of practice. She practices, but she can also belt out a perfect tune without hardly trying.
What are the core talents that makes someone a good hacker? I think there are two:
1.The ability to break down an idea/system into an abstract set of “concepts and
actions”
2.The ability to understand how these “concepts and actions” execute in a
particular environment.
Note that I didn’t say anything about coding. Coding is actually the least interesting part. If you can do the others well, coding is just another kind of typing. Coding is the thing your fingers do while your mind is flipping between 1) and 2). Learning a new language is less about learning the syntax than it is about learning the execution model.
Writing good, correct code involves not just conceiving of how something should be 1) but also understanding all that can happen 2).
I honestly don’t know if these things can be taught.
In 30 years I have only seen a few examples where a mediocre programmer became good or a good one became great and zero examples of a mediocre programmer becoming great.
What does this mean for people who want to build large software systems? The easy answer is to only hire great people. Which is fine when you can do it but not everyone can be or hire the best so what is left for the majority?
What should be done to make things easier for people aren’t in the top 5%?
There are lots of nice things that have been invented like source code control, higher level languages, garbage collection, etc. which reduce or abstract away some of the problems. And while sometimes these abstractions are leaky, they are really one of the few weapons we have against the beast called Complexity. Complexity is the key problem we face, especially if we are not wizards because:
A persons talent with regard to 1) and 2) above determine how much complexity they can deal with.
When I was in gradual school at UNC-CH Fred Brooks (the mythical man month guy) used to talk about Complexity as being a major thing which makes programming hard. Its not something easily cast aside:
Quoting Dr Brooks:
The complexity of software is an essential property, not an accidental one. Hence, descriptions of a software entity that abstract away its complexity often abstract away its essence.
I wish I had appreciated everything Fred said when I was a cocky grad student as much as I appreciate it today… sigh.
Some things are hard because they are hard and not much can be done about them. Still our goal needs to be to not try to make it worse than it is.
To this end, some people say: Do the simplest thing that will work.
I agree but prefer this formulation: Strive for the simplest thing that can’t possibly fail.
If you think about what can go wrong you are more likely to find the problems than if you think about what will go right.
I wish I could say we were making progress in reducing complexity but we seem to be adding it into our programming environments rather than removing it. One of the things I have thought about recently is the complexity of these abstractions themselves. Programming languages of today are so much more abstracted and complex than what I learned on (Assembler, Basic, Pascal, C).
For example the world (or at least the web) is currently engaged in writing or rewriting everything in Javascript. Not because JS is so awesome, but because 15 years ago it got stuck into browsers, then we all got stuck with browsers and thus we are all stuck with JS. Sure there’s lots of server stuff done in various other languages but really how long can that last? How long can one justify having to write 2 parts of an application in 2 different languages?
The future looks like node.js.
I am not a JS hater. Its just that I used to think Javascript was a simple language. As someone who wrote 3D Game engine code in C++, my thought was “if these webkids can do JS then it can’t be that complicated”. After building a webapp using Javascript/Dojo/svg to create a realtime browser for genetic information, I realize how wrong I was.
Sure its all nice and simple when you are doing this:
$(“#imhungry”).click(function() { alert(“food”);});
However a lot of complexity lurks just under hood. And its the way it all interacts that concerns me. Crockford called it
Lisp in C’s clothing. This should excite a few people and scare the crap out of the rest.
JS has lots of opportunity for expressing yourself in interesting ways. Expressiveness is good, but too much of it can create more problems than it solves. Back when C++ was a bunch of source code you downloaded from AT&T and you had to compile the complier yourself before you could use it, we grad students stayed up late eating bad fried chicken and debating the merits of O-O programming. It was at this point I began to wonder if the productivity gains of O-O were more the offset by the time spent debating about what good O-O practice is. This tape has played in my head more than a few times in my career.
Its not all bad of course: On balance, garbage collection is a win and I see lots of benefits to using closures in JS, but the underlying complexities of things escape most people and their interactions are understood by even fewer. If you have to slog through
this (and you should) to understand what happens when you call a function, you are cutting out alot of people from fully understanding what is going on when thier code executes.
I hope that some of this will be address by standards of practice. Things like
Google’s guidelines seem to be a good start. As with C++, I think that the best hope for improving productivity will actually be to agree on limits on how we use these tools rather than seeing how far we can push the envelope.
Well except for wizards and we know who we are.
15 Responses to Some random thoughts on programming
Jason P Sage says:
September 7, 2010 at 7:49 am
Right On. Nice Article… I’m on year 28 of programming – and I really liked this article.
P.S. I am a JS hater and .Net hater too (though good at both) because P-Code and Compile On demand are Slower and Make it necessary to obfuscate your code if you have intellectual property concerns.
Jonathan Palethorpe says:
September 7, 2010 at 7:52 am
22 years ago when I started in programming I could mess about at home doing a bit of BASIC and at work I wrote green screen sales and invoicing apps in COBOL ’74 using ISAM files. Nowadays programming is many times more difficult- ISAM files have been replaces with all singing all dancing SQL databases with a host of frameworks designed to access them (no in-language stuff as in COBOL with ISAM) – the green screens have been replaced with name your weird and wonderful GUI framework of choice (WPF in my case) and the languages themselves are now many, varied and unreadable to those not in the know.
I much prefer doing development work now but there are times when I still hanker after a bit of green screen/ISAM/MOVE W01-FOO TO W02-BAR
Michael Fever says:
September 7, 2010 at 9:24 am
Yeah, I’ll have to admit that was pretty random. I am an ok programmer, not great, but better than mediocre. I approach every job the same however by looking at what needs to get done and then by what is going to be required later to maintain it. Sometimes being OK is all you need to be.
Bob Gibson says:
September 7, 2010 at 9:47 am
Very good points.
I can relate… I started programming, in Basic & Fortran, … 40 years ago.
Jeffrey Lanham says:
September 7, 2010 at 10:13 am
Right on. After working in computers and programming for 27+ years, I have to agree. Programming is, unfortunately, something you inheritly understand or you don’t. You can teach semantics, but not the thought processes that go along with it. That being said, great programmers start as mediocre programmers, but quickly rise. Mediocre programmers tend to rise to somewhat competent and then stay there. That’s, unfortunately, the way it is.
Great article.
Alan Balkany says:
September 7, 2010 at 10:15 am
Sometimes the “hacker” is just someone who’s very familiar with the problem domain. An average programmer may appear to be a “hacker” to their coworkers when they’re re-implementing a system very similar to what they implemented at two other jobs.
They already know what works best, and the mistakes they’ve made in previous implementations.
I think most people don’t program as well as their potential because the best practices haven’t been communicated to them. For example, I see many programmers who don’t seem to know that reducing function length is a good way to keep complexity manageable.
The best practices are still being worked out; the field of software development is still in its infancy, compared to more mature disciplines such as mathematics and mechanical engineering.
Oisín says:
September 7, 2010 at 10:47 am
Alan is spot on here. Perhaps the idea that many programmers overlook useful, basic heuristics for programming (such as “shorter functions imply more manageable code, so break down your functions until they are small”) ties in with one theme of the OP, that programming has become more complex in terms of frameworks and maybe language expressiveness.
When I started programming, it was on the horrible bare-bones no-frills Commodore 64 Basic interpreter, followed a couple of years later by a lovely language called GFA Basic on the Atari ST, and then by 68k assembly and C. Maybe those formative years of just playing about, writing programs with minimal focus on libraries, industry standards and “frameworks”, were helpful in learning how to solve problems and write code.
But these days I spend more time reading articles about flashy programming/library techniques than actually thinking about and writing programs.
It could be the case that novice programmers nowadays jump too early onto this wheel, without spending the time doing simple, pure programming, so that they don’t sufficiently develop these key abstractions and heuristic tricks for managing complexity.
Joel Wilson says:
September 7, 2010 at 10:54 am
Couldn’t agree more about programming skill or JS. The best programmers I’ve ever known generally don’t have a comp-sci education (myself included). In fact, the single best I’ve ever known personally was an English major a couple of papers away from his Doctorate. He found programming and never looked back. As far as JS, I agree that its “appeal” (for lack of a better word) is simply because it’s the only trick in town. As a language it sucks for anything more than basic functionality. Although I use jQuery professionally, I find it sad that we have to resort to bloated frameworks and layers of abstraction to try and hide the basic weakness of the underlying language.
Leon says:
September 7, 2010 at 11:39 am
Oh, I guess for that post you’ll earn a lot of flames from mediocre guys who think that they will be great one day. Especially nowadays when everyone and his mother see themselves as coders because they can hack up some javascript/ruby code
Maintenance Man says:
September 7, 2010 at 1:12 pm
Say it ain’t so. Us mediocre programmers need some hope for the future. Heheh.
CollegeGrad says:
September 7, 2010 at 1:38 pm
I majored in Mathematics (not applied) and only became interested in programming in my junior year of college. I only started to really learn quality programming skills after leaving college. I find that I often know exactly how to solve a problem before the veteran programmers at my job even have a chance to really think about it. The problem for me is spending the time making sure my code is well structured and maintainable. When working with other programmers, I end up being the one explaining the problem and how we’re going to solve it over and over. My own experience, which I’ll be the first to point out is very limited, has indicated that it’s my experience with the theoretical aspects of computer science and complexity theory, as well as all my time spent proving abstract theorems, that gives me an advantage over the people who just know how to code. Maybe if programmers focused less on languages and more on things like linear algebra, abstract algebra, graph theory, etc. then they would be much better at their job. just my novice opinion.
Ryan says:
September 7, 2010 at 2:29 pm
“Do the simplest thing that will work.”
Not sure if you will even read this, but:
That is a great statement *but* I think it is critical to mention what I consider a serious and way too often overlooked problem. Lets say you start with a great code base. Then you amend/change it ‘as simply as possible’ to add a new feature. And again for a new feature, and again. Every step being done ‘simply’ actually adds unnecessary to the complexity of the program. What really needs to happen is the simplest implementation that incorporates *all* features, including the ones that had previously been implemented. And this takes more time and more effort in the short term, but boy does it save on time and effort in the long term.
Giles Bowkett says:
September 7, 2010 at 2:46 pm
Since my comment disappeared into a black hole with no feedback, I can only assume it’s gone into some moderation zone, which means I should assume people will read it, which means I should probably be less obnoxious about it, so: Java was designed to prevent people from fucking up. It did not; instead it prevented people from writing great software. That’s in the nature of design approaches based on minimizing the damage that the incompetent can do. The incompetent can fuck up anything; the only thing you achieve with standards and practices is restraining the so-called “wizards,” who create all the advances that save everybody else so much time. Exercising control to prevent incompetent mistakes is a sucker’s game; freeing up the language to “give them enough rope” results in great libraries which make everybody more productive (or at least, everybody who uses them).
I’m rehashing a debate for you here from 2006. It comes from the days when people were saying Rails would never be accepted in corporations, and, more to the point, your advocacy of standards and practices to prevent people from fucking up is the same argument that was coming from the people who said Rails would never be accepted in corporations. Their logic was clean and their conclusions were false; to anyone who was reading those debates, your argument was, I’m sorry, completely discredited almost five years ago now.
Sorry to go off in such detail on your final paragraph, which was kind of a tangent to your overall post, it just drives me fucking crazy that people settle these arguments definitively, only to see them revived a few years later and started over completely from scratch. “Those who don’t study history are doomed to repeat it,” etc.
admin says:
September 7, 2010 at 2:47 pm
I think it depends on how draconian the limits are. I don’t think the google guidlines for instance are any kind of crushing blow to innovation. I just don’t think that just because a language allows something you should necessarily do it.
admin says:
September 7, 2010 at 3:03 pm
Ok. Thanks for the longer comment. I’m learning alot about how bad I am at making my point.
Putting people on rails (sorry couldn’t resist) isn’t going to make bad programmers good. Crap can come from anything. That wasn’t what i wanted to say.
I’m more interested in keep some kind of boundary so that what results is maintainable enough by other people.
I Actually pushed for doing a recent project in python/django rather than java etc because I value the benefits which some of these newer, better langauges give you.
I just think with great power comes great responsibility. The cool meta-programming trick you did is awesome and personally I will give you props for it. I just hope the next guys can figure it out too.
Also I think that not all “rope” as you say is equal. Some things allow for great expressiveness and freedom while not adding much to complexity. I don’t use ruby so I’m not an expert on that, but in python there are function decorators, its a cool syntax for people to add some functionality. But its pretty explicit when its used. @login_required etc. Javascripts closures seem to be able to happen almost by accident or at least its not as explicit to someone looking at the code for the first time. Doesn’t mean we shouldn’t use them. I did today, but we need to be aware of what we are doing. And not i am not trying to start a python/javascript debate.
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